okay, so me and my cousin got into a little spat over kristen stewart the other day. i know kinda stupid but she got me mad when she started dissing kristen stewart saying that she can't act, that she doesn't care about her fans and that the only reason she does anything nice is for publicity and that she is a stuck up b****. then she said that she completely ruined new moon. i don't think she did. now no offense to chris weiz or anything but all of kristen's really good performances were on the deleted scenes. now i'm not saying that she didn't do good in the actual film because i do. thats the whole point of this discussion. in your opinion, how do you think kristen did? did she ruin new moon or did she bring bella to us and do a good job?

Views: 93

Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

I have to say that I feel for all of the young women that are being in that situation. Miley had to stop and talk to a paparazzo because they almost got her in accident and innocent bystanders could have been injured. Nicol Richie children was involved in a car accident when she was a passenger, her children have been victimized too.  She reacted very strongly in both situations.  Even though Paris and Lindsay have had their problems with drugs, I really think that constant scrutiny and paparazzi stalking has not helped them at all.  I think that the a lot of the paparazzi are not professional journalist but someone with a camera that doesn't know any limits.

Jessica Johnson said:


haha im in this conversation because i had a disagreement with you and you posted it on here because you are that obsessive? okay, so you feel for her because she has all these men chasing her with cameras and taking pictures. do you feel for miley cyrus then? lindsey lohan? paris hilton? nicole richie? and all these other young girls that get chased by so many men each and every day just because they are famous also? 

or is it just kristen stewart?

stephani johnson said:

okay, jessica yeah she chose to be an actress but just because of that choice she doesn't deserve to have fifty fricking men chasing her down and flashing camera's in her face every time she steps out side her damn house. and she wasn't making herself out to be the victim, she was just trying to describe what her life is like. and she apologized for her comment, have you seen the pictures of her and the paparazzi? they hound her for pictures and when she ignores them they call her a b****. when that doesn't work they insult her just to get a reaction out of her. it's sickening. how would you feel if you had tons of people taking pictures of you and documenting you every move? even though you like the attention, i'm sure you wouldn't like it 24/7. and when she started acting she never expected to to be famous she just wanted to do what she loves to do. why do you think she mostly chooses indie film that almost never get released and when they do they take three years. she does it because she loves it. you are mostly in this discussion just to annoy me. you wouldn't even care about her if i didn't.


tJessica Johnson said:

she made a comment about her pictures with the paparazzi is like her looking at someone being raped. that is not appropriate to say, in fact it makes me feel like she thinks she is a victim. she chose this life. she chose to be an actress. no one held a gun to her head and said go act. she chose it. she knew before becoming an actress that it meant her life would be completely invaded. im not saying what the paparazzi does is right, but she knew it would happen. her fault. she shouldn't make horrible comments like that and flick the cameras off just because of something she chose. she has many young impressionable fans that see that crap.

stephani johnson said:
okay. i am going to address some of the things you said about kristen. kristen isn't gracious to her fans and she says things that aren't warm? what have you been reading? everything i have ever seen that has to do with kristen and her fans, she has been nothing but nice to them. it actually makes her feel sad that she can't do everything for them. when she is at premiers or any other public appearance, she tries so hard to sign as many autographs as she can but she runs out of time. she cries when they do. this one time she was being chased by not only the paps but also some fans and this one girl was crying so bad and you could see how much it upset kristen that she couldn't do anything about it because her body guard pulled her away. and another time these fans waited outside her house all day until she came home and when she did it was really late and kristen was tired but she was still as nice as ever and signed the autographs. and this other time this fan wrote kristen a letter saying how much kristen means to her and kristen personally invited the girl to hang out with her for the day. and on oprah this girl was explaining how much kristen was a role model to her and how much kristen helped her to not be shy, kristen looked like she was going to cry because she could be that for someone and kristen gave the girl her ring that she wears in the twilight movies. never has she been ungracious to her fans. and about her choosing to act, just because she is an actress it doesn't she has to have her life invaded. she doesn't act to be famous or for money or whatever, she acts because she loves to do it. she picks roles that mean something to her, and she just wants the story to be told. that why she mostly chooses to do indie films. and she is very great full for her fans. and as for her interviews, how would you feel if you were asked the same stupid question everyday? all she is asked is wether or not she is dating robert pattinson, yea they do movies together but all the interviewers do is try to figure out the juiciest news they can spread around the tabloids. i'm not saying kristen is perfect because nobody is, but she cares about what she does, she cares about her fans and she is a down to earth person who just wants to do what she loves, and that happens to be acting.

Jo Anna said:
Wow this is a heavy topic of conversation.  I think the actors despite a few have done very well with the characters.  Do I think KStew ruined any of the films, no!  When I watched New Moon I really felt her pain and infact when I am down and want to be depressed I will watch that movie and cry with Bella.  As for her public appearances and her being bitchy hmmm..  I think she can be bitchy and extremely overwhelmed in public and with the paparazzi.  I think she could be more gracious to her fans and has made comments that didn't show a warm side to her.  I think when you choose a career that is going to cause fame you should expect people to invade your personal life, it is the nature of the beast.  I do think she could be more kind however maybe in time she will soften some.  Now I don't blame her one bit for being uncomfy in interviews I would be the exact same way......

LMAO!

I don't know your cousin, but I can compare because my friends think the same way--- Full of s*** is right! Kristen does a FANTASTIC job, especially in New Moon!Don't let anyone make you think any different ;-)


stephani johnson said:

i would just like to say that i just watched new moon and my cousin is just full of s***. kristen did everything right in that movie.
She was 17 when she started Twilight but she was 8 when she started acting. By the time she started to film Twilight she had been acting for 9 years.  I saw in Into the Wild, Speak, Catch that Kid many films before she was in Twilight.  All of the actors, Kellan, Ashley, Kristen, Rob and Taylor and most of the original cast did not have a clue when they started to film the first Twilight that it would be this big a phenomenon.  The first movie was a very low budget film. 

Jessica Johnson said:
you act like she was famous before twilight. she was a small time actor; now she is famous; because of twilight.  and she chose to do twilight, she was how old doing twilight? i think she was fully capable of understand what fame would do to her. 

Carmen Rohde said:
I truly don't believe that Kristen or any other actor truly understands the impact that fame will have on their personal lives.  When the most of the other actors started in the business, they were older than Kristen. Taylor used to come over from Michigan for auditions etc.  He admitted that he sought the fame but now that he has it that sometimes it's not always pleasant.  I think that when someone starts after High School such as Ashley has a little more time to think about what they're getting into than someone who starts at age 8.  She is not the only actor that has trouble with the interference that the constant scrutiny has in their lives.  Some just are able to accept it sooner, Kristen seemed to be more comfortable and open with interviews prior to the saga, and is now starting to get her self confidence back.

I would HATE being followed by paparzzi 24/7... so yes, I do empathizie for most actors/actresses. There are some people out there who want the attention- good for them. Kristen had no idea (or anyone else for that matter) that the Twilight movies were going to be such a big hit. Everyone was a little "low key" until the movies made it big. So I think the sudden change would be incredibly hard to deal with; and a little hostility about losing all your freedom would naturally come to the surface. 

I know we all love vampires/werewolves... but they are all still human :-) Can't forget that!

Jessica Johnson said:

you act like she was famous before twilight. she was a small time actor; now she is famous; because of twilight.  and she chose to do twilight, she was how old doing twilight? i think she was fully capable of understand what fame would do to her. 

Carmen Rohde said:
I truly don't believe that Kristen or any other actor truly understands the impact that fame will have on their personal lives.  When the most of the other actors started in the business, they were older than Kristen. Taylor used to come over from Michigan for auditions etc.  He admitted that he sought the fame but now that he has it that sometimes it's not always pleasant.  I think that when someone starts after High School such as Ashley has a little more time to think about what they're getting into than someone who starts at age 8.  She is not the only actor that has trouble with the interference that the constant scrutiny has in their lives.  Some just are able to accept it sooner, Kristen seemed to be more comfortable and open with interviews prior to the saga, and is now starting to get her self confidence back.
that's the point. she never had to deal with that before and it could be disorienting and stressful, and no one ever dreamed of twilight becoming this successful. did you know that twilight was a indie film with a low budget? no i bet not. the movie blew up over night so all the actors were thrust into this pretty quickly so they didn't have time to prepare for the fame.   

Jessica Johnson said:
you act like she was famous before twilight. she was a small time actor; now she is famous; because of twilight.  and she chose to do twilight, she was how old doing twilight? i think she was fully capable of understand what fame would do to her. 

Carmen Rohde said:
I truly don't believe that Kristen or any other actor truly understands the impact that fame will have on their personal lives.  When the most of the other actors started in the business, they were older than Kristen. Taylor used to come over from Michigan for auditions etc.  He admitted that he sought the fame but now that he has it that sometimes it's not always pleasant.  I think that when someone starts after High School such as Ashley has a little more time to think about what they're getting into than someone who starts at age 8.  She is not the only actor that has trouble with the interference that the constant scrutiny has in their lives.  Some just are able to accept it sooner, Kristen seemed to be more comfortable and open with interviews prior to the saga, and is now starting to get her self confidence back.
that is not true. if there wasn't a world without twilight then i wouldn't know anything about it there for it wouldn't bother me. and i am not overly obsessed, i just like the actress and enjoy her movies and as a fan i have the right to defend her. yeah yeah i know you are thinking that she doesn't even know i exist, but that wont stop me from liking or sticking up for her. 

Jessica Johnson said:
hahaha, yeah okay stephani. you are just overally obsessed and can't even fathom a world without her. your life would crumble to pieces if you didn't have twilight in your life. pathetic.

stephani johnson said:
i would just like to say that i just watched new moon and my cousin is just full of s***. kristen did everything right in that movie.
she knows she has fans, and us being the fans are happy with that. we will still defend her

Jessica Johnson said:

okay so people cant criticize her on her personal life just only on her acting, which means you cant praise her for anything besides her acting either, its not like you know her. a matter of fact, she doesnt even know any of you exist.
Carmen Rohde said:

Andrea, I agree with you.  Bella is supposed to be awkward.  I truly believe that most of the problems with any of the films is the script and direction not any of the actors. I have read the books several time. Kristen portrays Bella exactly the way I interpreted them from the book.  People are entitled to their opinion but the personal attacks on Kristen are not appropriate.  The criticism is not limited to her acting but to her personal life which is no one's business.  Everyone that has worked with her and has actually met her and has had real interaction with has only good things to say about her.  I too can't wait until Breaking Dawn to see Bella as a strong vampire that can protect her family.

 



Andrea Newkirk said:

I do not think that Kristen "ruined" any of the films. I have gotten the same remarks from people who I have watched the movies with before and I get so upset by their comments. But what makes me more frustrated is that most of those people have ONLY seen the movies. In the books Bella is this awkward person. Even Edward says so In Midnight Sun. Honestly I think that Kristen plays Bella very well. She has said before that she isn't always comfortable in media settings, she becomes anxious, nervous etc. and Bella is the exact same way. Bella doesn't wants the attention to be drawn away from her throughout most of the books.

 

I had a little trouble with a few things that went on in Eclipse, but I do not think that it was the acting. It was more about the writing. I felt as though they made Bella seem superior to Edward in most of that film, when in fact she isn't EVER. She is supposed to be the vulnerable human... that's why BD is so awesome because she is finally able to protect her vampire/werewolf family. I don't know, that's just my opinion.

 

yes, i feel the same way about them to a degree. i don't really care for those other people because they seek the attention, minus nicole richie. kristen just wants to enjoy her private life like a normal person does. and the paps should really respect that.

Jessica Johnson said:


haha im in this conversation because i had a disagreement with you and you posted it on here because you are that obsessive? okay, so you feel for her because she has all these men chasing her with cameras and taking pictures. do you feel for miley cyrus then? lindsey lohan? paris hilton? nicole richie? and all these other young girls that get chased by so many men each and every day just because they are famous also? 

or is it just kristen stewart?

stephani johnson said:

okay, jessica yeah she chose to be an actress but just because of that choice she doesn't deserve to have fifty fricking men chasing her down and flashing camera's in her face every time she steps out side her damn house. and she wasn't making herself out to be the victim, she was just trying to describe what her life is like. and she apologized for her comment, have you seen the pictures of her and the paparazzi? they hound her for pictures and when she ignores them they call her a b****. when that doesn't work they insult her just to get a reaction out of her. it's sickening. how would you feel if you had tons of people taking pictures of you and documenting you every move? even though you like the attention, i'm sure you wouldn't like it 24/7. and when she started acting she never expected to to be famous she just wanted to do what she loves to do. why do you think she mostly chooses indie film that almost never get released and when they do they take three years. she does it because she loves it. you are mostly in this discussion just to annoy me. you wouldn't even care about her if i didn't.


tJessica Johnson said:

she made a comment about her pictures with the paparazzi is like her looking at someone being raped. that is not appropriate to say, in fact it makes me feel like she thinks she is a victim. she chose this life. she chose to be an actress. no one held a gun to her head and said go act. she chose it. she knew before becoming an actress that it meant her life would be completely invaded. im not saying what the paparazzi does is right, but she knew it would happen. her fault. she shouldn't make horrible comments like that and flick the cameras off just because of something she chose. she has many young impressionable fans that see that crap.

stephani johnson said:
okay. i am going to address some of the things you said about kristen. kristen isn't gracious to her fans and she says things that aren't warm? what have you been reading? everything i have ever seen that has to do with kristen and her fans, she has been nothing but nice to them. it actually makes her feel sad that she can't do everything for them. when she is at premiers or any other public appearance, she tries so hard to sign as many autographs as she can but she runs out of time. she cries when they do. this one time she was being chased by not only the paps but also some fans and this one girl was crying so bad and you could see how much it upset kristen that she couldn't do anything about it because her body guard pulled her away. and another time these fans waited outside her house all day until she came home and when she did it was really late and kristen was tired but she was still as nice as ever and signed the autographs. and this other time this fan wrote kristen a letter saying how much kristen means to her and kristen personally invited the girl to hang out with her for the day. and on oprah this girl was explaining how much kristen was a role model to her and how much kristen helped her to not be shy, kristen looked like she was going to cry because she could be that for someone and kristen gave the girl her ring that she wears in the twilight movies. never has she been ungracious to her fans. and about her choosing to act, just because she is an actress it doesn't she has to have her life invaded. she doesn't act to be famous or for money or whatever, she acts because she loves to do it. she picks roles that mean something to her, and she just wants the story to be told. that why she mostly chooses to do indie films. and she is very great full for her fans. and as for her interviews, how would you feel if you were asked the same stupid question everyday? all she is asked is wether or not she is dating robert pattinson, yea they do movies together but all the interviewers do is try to figure out the juiciest news they can spread around the tabloids. i'm not saying kristen is perfect because nobody is, but she cares about what she does, she cares about her fans and she is a down to earth person who just wants to do what she loves, and that happens to be acting.

Jo Anna said:
Wow this is a heavy topic of conversation.  I think the actors despite a few have done very well with the characters.  Do I think KStew ruined any of the films, no!  When I watched New Moon I really felt her pain and infact when I am down and want to be depressed I will watch that movie and cry with Bella.  As for her public appearances and her being bitchy hmmm..  I think she can be bitchy and extremely overwhelmed in public and with the paparazzi.  I think she could be more gracious to her fans and has made comments that didn't show a warm side to her.  I think when you choose a career that is going to cause fame you should expect people to invade your personal life, it is the nature of the beast.  I do think she could be more kind however maybe in time she will soften some.  Now I don't blame her one bit for being uncomfy in interviews I would be the exact same way......
no emotion? you really need to watch new moon again, jessica

Jessica Johnson said:
i amstephani's cousin.  and i say it was her fault because she had no emotion in new moon, she sucked in the movie.

Mrs Emmett Cullen- LAUREN xxx said:
yh, i c wat u meen bt who r u 2 say it was kristens fault? i just that wat stephanies cusin sed was unnesesarilly harsh as i think shes a gd actor (-reely, no ofence 2 her cusin, this is just based on wat stephany sed) 
though i spose i c where ur cuming from, new moon definately wasnt my fave ;) x
Jessica Johnson said:


are you serious? thats what the whole movie business is about, people criticizing them. its a part of being famous. and like i said many times before;she chose it.  why do you think there are critics and movie reviewers.

 

I would also like to point out new moon got a 4.5 rating out of 10 compared to twilight that got 5.6 out of 10. and eclipse got a 4.8 out of 10. NEW MOON has the lowest rating. just sayingg.
Mrs Emmett Cullen- LAUREN xxx said:

NO, NO WAY! of course kristen didnt ruin ANY of the films she acted in. i think she makes a fab bella, and also (no offence 2 any1) bt is it fair that people criticise her? -i meen the director of all the films wer obviously happy with her performences- othewise they woodnt hav produced the films. i thik she is a brill actress, and no1 bt the directors of the films she acts in has the right 2 say otherwise.

-just my opinion, hope i didnt ofend any1 (LOL) xxx ;)

 

yeah but you did it just to annoy me.

Jessica Johnson said:
everyone has the good and bad sides of them, but its pretty pathetic when people are getting so defended about someone they dont even know. and this whole thing started because i said my opinion to stephani and her being as obsessive as she is decided to get mad because i said my opinion and it didnt agree with hers.

Carmen Rohde said:
This comment is for the people that say that Kristen is not gracious to her fans.  I am not basing my opinion only on articles that I have read.  I have seen her interact with fans.   I actually saw Kristen being interviewed by a reporter at Sundance.  This amazed me.  She answered everyone of his questions in a respectful and thoughtful manner. She didn't rush him. When the people running event ushered her to the next reporter, she said that it was nice talking to him, smiled and thanked him.  He turned around and said to the camera "She hated me did you see how nasty she was?" I was floored.  At the Eclipse premiere she had fans that she had seen at the other premieres so she made a point to have tickets for them. You should have seen how excited they were. One of her fans made her a bracelet which she kept on the entire night.  Just as you can bring up negative comments and behavior about her all of us that like her can bring up positive situations.  When you like someone you see the good things, when you don't like someone you only see the bad.

did you know that Jody Foster, kristen's co-star in Panic Room, said that she thought that kristen wasn't going to make it as an actress because kristen told her that she wan't in it for the fame and money? and Jody thought she didn't have the right drive to be an actress because of that. ( not to hate on jody foster or anything, and jody didn't mean any harm from what she said, so people who read's this don't get the wrong idea okay? ) and look where she is now, she is one of the most famous celebs right now and has made a handful of movies and has worked with some of the top respected and A list actors. yeah she chose this profession, i'm sure on some level she did know what she was getting herself into but she never expected it to be at this magnitude. she is very grateful of her fame and for her fans. she loves that she can be a role model for girls, but at the same time she just wants to be like the rest of us too.


Jessica Johnson said:


wow, so just because she started young means that she fell in love with it and all the other actors didnt just because they didn't start as young? they only want money and fame? what proof do you have of that. and as i said before no its not right of the paparazzi to do the things they do, but she knew that before choosing to do this as a career.
Carmen Rohde said:

J

essica, she immediately apologized for the use of the work Rape.  Kristen does not take rape lightly.  She has  spoken for support groups and for rape prevention groups. Her apology was immediate and sincere.  While it's true that she chose her profession, it also true that there many paparazzi that are verbally abusive, physically aggressive and quite sometimes frightening.  Many times they have endangered their own lives, the lives of their subjects, and innocent bystanders to get a photograph or reaction.  Unlike Kellan, Jackson, Taylor, Ashley, Anna and even Rob who left their hometowns, their states, their countries looking for fame and fortune, Kristen began acting when she was 8 years Old. She fell in love with the process. I don't care how famous you get, or why a person becomes famous, no one has to share every private moment with the rest of the world. There was a situation where she was walking to her car and all of a sudden she was surrounded by 25 men.  She was frightened. She tried to run into a restaurant but it was closed.  She is not the only celebrity who has complained about this. Every co-star that has worked with her and/or Rob say that they could never put with up the constant scrutiny and invasion of privacy that she and Rob have put up with.  She is not talking about the legitimate press or her fans.   I have seen her many times go out of her way for fans.

Jessica Johnson said:

she made a comment about her pictures with the paparazzi is like her looking at someone being raped. that is not appropriate to say, in fact it makes me feel like she thinks she is a victim. she chose this life. she chose to be an actress. no one held a gun to her head and said go act. she chose it. she knew before becoming an actress that it meant her life would be completely invaded. im not saying what the paparazzi does is right, but she knew it would happen. her fault. she shouldn't make horrible comments like that and flick the cameras off just because of something she chose. she has many young impressionable fans that see that crap.

stephani johnson said:
okay. i am going to address some of the things you said about kristen. kristen isn't gracious to her fans and she says things that aren't warm? what have you been reading? everything i have ever seen that has to do with kristen and her fans, she has been nothing but nice to them. it actually makes her feel sad that she can't do everything for them. when she is at premiers or any other public appearance, she tries so hard to sign as many autographs as she can but she runs out of time. she cries when they do. this one time she was being chased by not only the paps but also some fans and this one girl was crying so bad and you could see how much it upset kristen that she couldn't do anything about it because her body guard pulled her away. and another time these fans waited outside her house all day until she came home and when she did it was really late and kristen was tired but she was still as nice as ever and signed the autographs. and this other time this fan wrote kristen a letter saying how much kristen means to her and kristen personally invited the girl to hang out with her for the day. and on oprah this girl was explaining how much kristen was a role model to her and how much kristen helped her to not be shy, kristen looked like she was going to cry because she could be that for someone and kristen gave the girl her ring that she wears in the twilight movies. never has she been ungracious to her fans. and about her choosing to act, just because she is an actress it doesn't she has to have her life invaded. she doesn't act to be famous or for money or whatever, she acts because she loves to do it. she picks roles that mean something to her, and she just wants the story to be told. that why she mostly chooses to do indie films. and she is very great full for her fans. and as for her interviews, how would you feel if you were asked the same stupid question everyday? all she is asked is wether or not she is dating robert pattinson, yea they do movies together but all the interviewers do is try to figure out the juiciest news they can spread around the tabloids. i'm not saying kristen is perfect because nobody is, but she cares about what she does, she cares about her fans and she is a down to earth person who just wants to do what she loves, and that happens to be acting.

Jo Anna said:
Wow this is a heavy topic of conversation.  I think the actors despite a few have done very well with the characters.  Do I think KStew ruined any of the films, no!  When I watched New Moon I really felt her pain and infact when I am down and want to be depressed I will watch that movie and cry with Bella.  As for her public appearances and her being bitchy hmmm..  I think she can be bitchy and extremely overwhelmed in public and with the paparazzi.  I think she could be more gracious to her fans and has made comments that didn't show a warm side to her.  I think when you choose a career that is going to cause fame you should expect people to invade your personal life, it is the nature of the beast.  I do think she could be more kind however maybe in time she will soften some.  Now I don't blame her one bit for being uncomfy in interviews I would be the exact same way......

haha you dont even stick up for your sister this way, now thats pathetic.
stephani johnson said:
that is not true. if there wasn't a world without twilight then i wouldn't know anything about it there for it wouldn't bother me. and i am not overly obsessed, i just like the actress and enjoy her movies and as a fan i have the right to defend her. yeah yeah i know you are thinking that she doesn't even know i exist, but that wont stop me from liking or sticking up for her. 

Jessica Johnson said:
hahaha, yeah okay stephani. you are just overally obsessed and can't even fathom a world without her. your life would crumble to pieces if you didn't have twilight in your life. pathetic.

stephani johnson said:
i would just like to say that i just watched new moon and my cousin is just full of s***. kristen did everything right in that movie.

Reply to Discussion

RSS

Advertising

Watch us while we sleep...

© 2013    

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service

Related Posts Plugin for WordPress, Blogger... Related Posts Plugin for WordPress, Blogger... Related Posts Plugin for WordPress, Blogger...