okay, so me and my cousin got into a little spat over kristen stewart the other day. i know kinda stupid but she got me mad when she started dissing kristen stewart saying that she can't act, that she doesn't care about her fans and that the only reason she does anything nice is for publicity and that she is a stuck up b****. then she said that she completely ruined new moon. i don't think she did. now no offense to chris weiz or anything but all of kristen's really good performances were on the deleted scenes. now i'm not saying that she didn't do good in the actual film because i do. thats the whole point of this discussion. in your opinion, how do you think kristen did? did she ruin new moon or did she bring bella to us and do a good job?

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I feel like the books were a pretty big f****** deal even before twilight came out, hmm.. good books = big movie blow out usually correct? yess,  duh they knew they were going to get famous off of it, maybe not as much as it is, but still f****** famous. I just bet they didn't think they would have overally obsessed creeps basically having an orgasm whenever they see a damn picture of them or hear their f****** name

stephani johnson said:
that's the point. she never had to deal with that before and it could be disorienting and stressful, and no one ever dreamed of twilight becoming this successful. did you know that twilight was a indie film with a low budget? no i bet not. the movie blew up over night so all the actors were thrust into this pretty quickly so they didn't have time to prepare for the fame.   

Jessica Johnson said:
you act like she was famous before twilight. she was a small time actor; now she is famous; because of twilight.  and she chose to do twilight, she was how old doing twilight? i think she was fully capable of understand what fame would do to her. 

Carmen Rohde said:
I truly don't believe that Kristen or any other actor truly understands the impact that fame will have on their personal lives.  When the most of the other actors started in the business, they were older than Kristen. Taylor used to come over from Michigan for auditions etc.  He admitted that he sought the fame but now that he has it that sometimes it's not always pleasant.  I think that when someone starts after High School such as Ashley has a little more time to think about what they're getting into than someone who starts at age 8.  She is not the only actor that has trouble with the interference that the constant scrutiny has in their lives.  Some just are able to accept it sooner, Kristen seemed to be more comfortable and open with interviews prior to the saga, and is now starting to get her self confidence back.
no you dont, youre just saying that because i caught you in your over obsessed ways. and i feel like they dont all seek it. true lindsey and paris hilton both have gotten into drugs and s*** like that that just call for more attention but that doesnt mean they do it for attention. s*** stephani you used to be obsessed like this over buffy the vampire slayer, and miley cyrus/hannah montana. haha, i remember when repeats of hannah montana would come on and you'd b**** me the f*** out for changing the f****** channel. i also remember how you use to search for pictures of hannah montana/miley cyrus and decorate them the way you do with all these twilight ones. you have an obsessiver nature about you, i just dont like it.
stephani johnson said:
yes, i feel the same way about them to a degree. i don't really care for those other people because they seek the attention, minus nicole richie. kristen just wants to enjoy her private life like a normal person does. and the paps should really respect that.

Jessica Johnson said:


haha im in this conversation because i had a disagreement with you and you posted it on here because you are that obsessive? okay, so you feel for her because she has all these men chasing her with cameras and taking pictures. do you feel for miley cyrus then? lindsey lohan? paris hilton? nicole richie? and all these other young girls that get chased by so many men each and every day just because they are famous also? 

or is it just kristen stewart?

stephani johnson said:

okay, jessica yeah she chose to be an actress but just because of that choice she doesn't deserve to have fifty fricking men chasing her down and flashing camera's in her face every time she steps out side her damn house. and she wasn't making herself out to be the victim, she was just trying to describe what her life is like. and she apologized for her comment, have you seen the pictures of her and the paparazzi? they hound her for pictures and when she ignores them they call her a b****. when that doesn't work they insult her just to get a reaction out of her. it's sickening. how would you feel if you had tons of people taking pictures of you and documenting you every move? even though you like the attention, i'm sure you wouldn't like it 24/7. and when she started acting she never expected to to be famous she just wanted to do what she loves to do. why do you think she mostly chooses indie film that almost never get released and when they do they take three years. she does it because she loves it. you are mostly in this discussion just to annoy me. you wouldn't even care about her if i didn't.


tJessica Johnson said:

she made a comment about her pictures with the paparazzi is like her looking at someone being raped. that is not appropriate to say, in fact it makes me feel like she thinks she is a victim. she chose this life. she chose to be an actress. no one held a gun to her head and said go act. she chose it. she knew before becoming an actress that it meant her life would be completely invaded. im not saying what the paparazzi does is right, but she knew it would happen. her fault. she shouldn't make horrible comments like that and flick the cameras off just because of something she chose. she has many young impressionable fans that see that crap.

stephani johnson said:
okay. i am going to address some of the things you said about kristen. kristen isn't gracious to her fans and she says things that aren't warm? what have you been reading? everything i have ever seen that has to do with kristen and her fans, she has been nothing but nice to them. it actually makes her feel sad that she can't do everything for them. when she is at premiers or any other public appearance, she tries so hard to sign as many autographs as she can but she runs out of time. she cries when they do. this one time she was being chased by not only the paps but also some fans and this one girl was crying so bad and you could see how much it upset kristen that she couldn't do anything about it because her body guard pulled her away. and another time these fans waited outside her house all day until she came home and when she did it was really late and kristen was tired but she was still as nice as ever and signed the autographs. and this other time this fan wrote kristen a letter saying how much kristen means to her and kristen personally invited the girl to hang out with her for the day. and on oprah this girl was explaining how much kristen was a role model to her and how much kristen helped her to not be shy, kristen looked like she was going to cry because she could be that for someone and kristen gave the girl her ring that she wears in the twilight movies. never has she been ungracious to her fans. and about her choosing to act, just because she is an actress it doesn't she has to have her life invaded. she doesn't act to be famous or for money or whatever, she acts because she loves to do it. she picks roles that mean something to her, and she just wants the story to be told. that why she mostly chooses to do indie films. and she is very great full for her fans. and as for her interviews, how would you feel if you were asked the same stupid question everyday? all she is asked is wether or not she is dating robert pattinson, yea they do movies together but all the interviewers do is try to figure out the juiciest news they can spread around the tabloids. i'm not saying kristen is perfect because nobody is, but she cares about what she does, she cares about her fans and she is a down to earth person who just wants to do what she loves, and that happens to be acting.

Jo Anna said:
Wow this is a heavy topic of conversation.  I think the actors despite a few have done very well with the characters.  Do I think KStew ruined any of the films, no!  When I watched New Moon I really felt her pain and infact when I am down and want to be depressed I will watch that movie and cry with Bella.  As for her public appearances and her being bitchy hmmm..  I think she can be bitchy and extremely overwhelmed in public and with the paparazzi.  I think she could be more gracious to her fans and has made comments that didn't show a warm side to her.  I think when you choose a career that is going to cause fame you should expect people to invade your personal life, it is the nature of the beast.  I do think she could be more kind however maybe in time she will soften some.  Now I don't blame her one bit for being uncomfy in interviews I would be the exact same way......
no i said it because its my opinion.  just like you i am allowed to have one.

stephani johnson said:
yeah but you did it just to annoy me.

Jessica Johnson said:
everyone has the good and bad sides of them, but its pretty pathetic when people are getting so defended about someone they dont even know. and this whole thing started because i said my opinion to stephani and her being as obsessive as she is decided to get mad because i said my opinion and it didnt agree with hers.

Carmen Rohde said:
This comment is for the people that say that Kristen is not gracious to her fans.  I am not basing my opinion only on articles that I have read.  I have seen her interact with fans.   I actually saw Kristen being interviewed by a reporter at Sundance.  This amazed me.  She answered everyone of his questions in a respectful and thoughtful manner. She didn't rush him. When the people running event ushered her to the next reporter, she said that it was nice talking to him, smiled and thanked him.  He turned around and said to the camera "She hated me did you see how nasty she was?" I was floored.  At the Eclipse premiere she had fans that she had seen at the other premieres so she made a point to have tickets for them. You should have seen how excited they were. One of her fans made her a bracelet which she kept on the entire night.  Just as you can bring up negative comments and behavior about her all of us that like her can bring up positive situations.  When you like someone you see the good things, when you don't like someone you only see the bad.

she cant have her cake and eat it too. she isnt hannah montana; she cant have the best of both worlds. and i would love to see where you learned that from? i can't imagine an actress saying to a young girl "oh youre not going to make it because you're not in it for the money and fame" yeah totally sounds legit. so get me the article that says that please.  and please she is only so "famous" because of over obsessed creeps like you guys that have nothing better to do than sit and cyber stalk these celebrities.
stephani johnson said:

did you know that Jody Foster, kristen's co-star in Panic Room, said that she thought that kristen wasn't going to make it as an actress because kristen told her that she wan't in it for the fame and money? and Jody thought she didn't have the right drive to be an actress because of that. ( not to hate on jody foster or anything, and jody didn't mean any harm from what she said, so people who read's this don't get the wrong idea okay? ) and look where she is now, she is one of the most famous celebs right now and has made a handful of movies and has worked with some of the top respected and A list actors. yeah she chose this profession, i'm sure on some level she did know what she was getting herself into but she never expected it to be at this magnitude. she is very grateful of her fame and for her fans. she loves that she can be a role model for girls, but at the same time she just wants to be like the rest of us too.


Jessica Johnson said:


wow, so just because she started young means that she fell in love with it and all the other actors didnt just because they didn't start as young? they only want money and fame? what proof do you have of that. and as i said before no its not right of the paparazzi to do the things they do, but she knew that before choosing to do this as a career.
Carmen Rohde said:

J

essica, she immediately apologized for the use of the work Rape.  Kristen does not take rape lightly.  She has  spoken for support groups and for rape prevention groups. Her apology was immediate and sincere.  While it's true that she chose her profession, it also true that there many paparazzi that are verbally abusive, physically aggressive and quite sometimes frightening.  Many times they have endangered their own lives, the lives of their subjects, and innocent bystanders to get a photograph or reaction.  Unlike Kellan, Jackson, Taylor, Ashley, Anna and even Rob who left their hometowns, their states, their countries looking for fame and fortune, Kristen began acting when she was 8 years Old. She fell in love with the process. I don't care how famous you get, or why a person becomes famous, no one has to share every private moment with the rest of the world. There was a situation where she was walking to her car and all of a sudden she was surrounded by 25 men.  She was frightened. She tried to run into a restaurant but it was closed.  She is not the only celebrity who has complained about this. Every co-star that has worked with her and/or Rob say that they could never put with up the constant scrutiny and invasion of privacy that she and Rob have put up with.  She is not talking about the legitimate press or her fans.   I have seen her many times go out of her way for fans.

Jessica Johnson said:

she made a comment about her pictures with the paparazzi is like her looking at someone being raped. that is not appropriate to say, in fact it makes me feel like she thinks she is a victim. she chose this life. she chose to be an actress. no one held a gun to her head and said go act. she chose it. she knew before becoming an actress that it meant her life would be completely invaded. im not saying what the paparazzi does is right, but she knew it would happen. her fault. she shouldn't make horrible comments like that and flick the cameras off just because of something she chose. she has many young impressionable fans that see that crap.

stephani johnson said:
okay. i am going to address some of the things you said about kristen. kristen isn't gracious to her fans and she says things that aren't warm? what have you been reading? everything i have ever seen that has to do with kristen and her fans, she has been nothing but nice to them. it actually makes her feel sad that she can't do everything for them. when she is at premiers or any other public appearance, she tries so hard to sign as many autographs as she can but she runs out of time. she cries when they do. this one time she was being chased by not only the paps but also some fans and this one girl was crying so bad and you could see how much it upset kristen that she couldn't do anything about it because her body guard pulled her away. and another time these fans waited outside her house all day until she came home and when she did it was really late and kristen was tired but she was still as nice as ever and signed the autographs. and this other time this fan wrote kristen a letter saying how much kristen means to her and kristen personally invited the girl to hang out with her for the day. and on oprah this girl was explaining how much kristen was a role model to her and how much kristen helped her to not be shy, kristen looked like she was going to cry because she could be that for someone and kristen gave the girl her ring that she wears in the twilight movies. never has she been ungracious to her fans. and about her choosing to act, just because she is an actress it doesn't she has to have her life invaded. she doesn't act to be famous or for money or whatever, she acts because she loves to do it. she picks roles that mean something to her, and she just wants the story to be told. that why she mostly chooses to do indie films. and she is very great full for her fans. and as for her interviews, how would you feel if you were asked the same stupid question everyday? all she is asked is wether or not she is dating robert pattinson, yea they do movies together but all the interviewers do is try to figure out the juiciest news they can spread around the tabloids. i'm not saying kristen is perfect because nobody is, but she cares about what she does, she cares about her fans and she is a down to earth person who just wants to do what she loves, and that happens to be acting.

Jo Anna said:
Wow this is a heavy topic of conversation.  I think the actors despite a few have done very well with the characters.  Do I think KStew ruined any of the films, no!  When I watched New Moon I really felt her pain and infact when I am down and want to be depressed I will watch that movie and cry with Bella.  As for her public appearances and her being bitchy hmmm..  I think she can be bitchy and extremely overwhelmed in public and with the paparazzi.  I think she could be more gracious to her fans and has made comments that didn't show a warm side to her.  I think when you choose a career that is going to cause fame you should expect people to invade your personal life, it is the nature of the beast.  I do think she could be more kind however maybe in time she will soften some.  Now I don't blame her one bit for being uncomfy in interviews I would be the exact same way......
she didn't say it to her face, it was mentioned in an interview that jody foster did, there was a link to it but i don't remember where i found it on. and what do you mean she can't have her cake and eat it too? that s*** never made sense to me.

Jessica Johnson said:

she cant have her cake and eat it too. she isnt hannah montana; she cant have the best of both worlds. and i would love to see where you learned that from? i can't imagine an actress saying to a young girl "oh youre not going to make it because you're not in it for the money and fame" yeah totally sounds legit. so get me the article that says that please.  and please she is only so "famous" because of over obsessed creeps like you guys that have nothing better to do than sit and cyber stalk these celebrities.
stephani johnson said:

did you know that Jody Foster, kristen's co-star in Panic Room, said that she thought that kristen wasn't going to make it as an actress because kristen told her that she wan't in it for the fame and money? and Jody thought she didn't have the right drive to be an actress because of that. ( not to hate on jody foster or anything, and jody didn't mean any harm from what she said, so people who read's this don't get the wrong idea okay? ) and look where she is now, she is one of the most famous celebs right now and has made a handful of movies and has worked with some of the top respected and A list actors. yeah she chose this profession, i'm sure on some level she did know what she was getting herself into but she never expected it to be at this magnitude. she is very grateful of her fame and for her fans. she loves that she can be a role model for girls, but at the same time she just wants to be like the rest of us too.


Jessica Johnson said:


wow, so just because she started young means that she fell in love with it and all the other actors didnt just because they didn't start as young? they only want money and fame? what proof do you have of that. and as i said before no its not right of the paparazzi to do the things they do, but she knew that before choosing to do this as a career.
Carmen Rohde said:

J

essica, she immediately apologized for the use of the work Rape.  Kristen does not take rape lightly.  She has  spoken for support groups and for rape prevention groups. Her apology was immediate and sincere.  While it's true that she chose her profession, it also true that there many paparazzi that are verbally abusive, physically aggressive and quite sometimes frightening.  Many times they have endangered their own lives, the lives of their subjects, and innocent bystanders to get a photograph or reaction.  Unlike Kellan, Jackson, Taylor, Ashley, Anna and even Rob who left their hometowns, their states, their countries looking for fame and fortune, Kristen began acting when she was 8 years Old. She fell in love with the process. I don't care how famous you get, or why a person becomes famous, no one has to share every private moment with the rest of the world. There was a situation where she was walking to her car and all of a sudden she was surrounded by 25 men.  She was frightened. She tried to run into a restaurant but it was closed.  She is not the only celebrity who has complained about this. Every co-star that has worked with her and/or Rob say that they could never put with up the constant scrutiny and invasion of privacy that she and Rob have put up with.  She is not talking about the legitimate press or her fans.   I have seen her many times go out of her way for fans.

Jessica Johnson said:

she made a comment about her pictures with the paparazzi is like her looking at someone being raped. that is not appropriate to say, in fact it makes me feel like she thinks she is a victim. she chose this life. she chose to be an actress. no one held a gun to her head and said go act. she chose it. she knew before becoming an actress that it meant her life would be completely invaded. im not saying what the paparazzi does is right, but she knew it would happen. her fault. she shouldn't make horrible comments like that and flick the cameras off just because of something she chose. she has many young impressionable fans that see that crap.

stephani johnson said:
okay. i am going to address some of the things you said about kristen. kristen isn't gracious to her fans and she says things that aren't warm? what have you been reading? everything i have ever seen that has to do with kristen and her fans, she has been nothing but nice to them. it actually makes her feel sad that she can't do everything for them. when she is at premiers or any other public appearance, she tries so hard to sign as many autographs as she can but she runs out of time. she cries when they do. this one time she was being chased by not only the paps but also some fans and this one girl was crying so bad and you could see how much it upset kristen that she couldn't do anything about it because her body guard pulled her away. and another time these fans waited outside her house all day until she came home and when she did it was really late and kristen was tired but she was still as nice as ever and signed the autographs. and this other time this fan wrote kristen a letter saying how much kristen means to her and kristen personally invited the girl to hang out with her for the day. and on oprah this girl was explaining how much kristen was a role model to her and how much kristen helped her to not be shy, kristen looked like she was going to cry because she could be that for someone and kristen gave the girl her ring that she wears in the twilight movies. never has she been ungracious to her fans. and about her choosing to act, just because she is an actress it doesn't she has to have her life invaded. she doesn't act to be famous or for money or whatever, she acts because she loves to do it. she picks roles that mean something to her, and she just wants the story to be told. that why she mostly chooses to do indie films. and she is very great full for her fans. and as for her interviews, how would you feel if you were asked the same stupid question everyday? all she is asked is wether or not she is dating robert pattinson, yea they do movies together but all the interviewers do is try to figure out the juiciest news they can spread around the tabloids. i'm not saying kristen is perfect because nobody is, but she cares about what she does, she cares about her fans and she is a down to earth person who just wants to do what she loves, and that happens to be acting.

Jo Anna said:
Wow this is a heavy topic of conversation.  I think the actors despite a few have done very well with the characters.  Do I think KStew ruined any of the films, no!  When I watched New Moon I really felt her pain and infact when I am down and want to be depressed I will watch that movie and cry with Bella.  As for her public appearances and her being bitchy hmmm..  I think she can be bitchy and extremely overwhelmed in public and with the paparazzi.  I think she could be more gracious to her fans and has made comments that didn't show a warm side to her.  I think when you choose a career that is going to cause fame you should expect people to invade your personal life, it is the nature of the beast.  I do think she could be more kind however maybe in time she will soften some.  Now I don't blame her one bit for being uncomfy in interviews I would be the exact same way......
i know you are, but it's an irritating opinion.

stephani johnson said:
she didn't say it to her face, it was mentioned in an interview that jody foster did, there was a link to it but i don't remember where i found it on. and what do you mean she can't have her cake and eat it too? that s*** never made sense to me.

Jessica Johnson said:

she cant have her cake and eat it too. she isnt hannah montana; she cant have the best of both worlds. and i would love to see where you learned that from? i can't imagine an actress saying to a young girl "oh youre not going to make it because you're not in it for the money and fame" yeah totally sounds legit. so get me the article that says that please.  and please she is only so "famous" because of over obsessed creeps like you guys that have nothing better to do than sit and cyber stalk these celebrities.
stephani johnson said:

did you know that Jody Foster, kristen's co-star in Panic Room, said that she thought that kristen wasn't going to make it as an actress because kristen told her that she wan't in it for the fame and money? and Jody thought she didn't have the right drive to be an actress because of that. ( not to hate on jody foster or anything, and jody didn't mean any harm from what she said, so people who read's this don't get the wrong idea okay? ) and look where she is now, she is one of the most famous celebs right now and has made a handful of movies and has worked with some of the top respected and A list actors. yeah she chose this profession, i'm sure on some level she did know what she was getting herself into but she never expected it to be at this magnitude. she is very grateful of her fame and for her fans. she loves that she can be a role model for girls, but at the same time she just wants to be like the rest of us too.


Jessica Johnson said:


wow, so just because she started young means that she fell in love with it and all the other actors didnt just because they didn't start as young? they only want money and fame? what proof do you have of that. and as i said before no its not right of the paparazzi to do the things they do, but she knew that before choosing to do this as a career.
Carmen Rohde said:

J

essica, she immediately apologized for the use of the work Rape.  Kristen does not take rape lightly.  She has  spoken for support groups and for rape prevention groups. Her apology was immediate and sincere.  While it's true that she chose her profession, it also true that there many paparazzi that are verbally abusive, physically aggressive and quite sometimes frightening.  Many times they have endangered their own lives, the lives of their subjects, and innocent bystanders to get a photograph or reaction.  Unlike Kellan, Jackson, Taylor, Ashley, Anna and even Rob who left their hometowns, their states, their countries looking for fame and fortune, Kristen began acting when she was 8 years Old. She fell in love with the process. I don't care how famous you get, or why a person becomes famous, no one has to share every private moment with the rest of the world. There was a situation where she was walking to her car and all of a sudden she was surrounded by 25 men.  She was frightened. She tried to run into a restaurant but it was closed.  She is not the only celebrity who has complained about this. Every co-star that has worked with her and/or Rob say that they could never put with up the constant scrutiny and invasion of privacy that she and Rob have put up with.  She is not talking about the legitimate press or her fans.   I have seen her many times go out of her way for fans.

Jessica Johnson said:

she made a comment about her pictures with the paparazzi is like her looking at someone being raped. that is not appropriate to say, in fact it makes me feel like she thinks she is a victim. she chose this life. she chose to be an actress. no one held a gun to her head and said go act. she chose it. she knew before becoming an actress that it meant her life would be completely invaded. im not saying what the paparazzi does is right, but she knew it would happen. her fault. she shouldn't make horrible comments like that and flick the cameras off just because of something she chose. she has many young impressionable fans that see that crap.

stephani johnson said:
okay. i am going to address some of the things you said about kristen. kristen isn't gracious to her fans and she says things that aren't warm? what have you been reading? everything i have ever seen that has to do with kristen and her fans, she has been nothing but nice to them. it actually makes her feel sad that she can't do everything for them. when she is at premiers or any other public appearance, she tries so hard to sign as many autographs as she can but she runs out of time. she cries when they do. this one time she was being chased by not only the paps but also some fans and this one girl was crying so bad and you could see how much it upset kristen that she couldn't do anything about it because her body guard pulled her away. and another time these fans waited outside her house all day until she came home and when she did it was really late and kristen was tired but she was still as nice as ever and signed the autographs. and this other time this fan wrote kristen a letter saying how much kristen means to her and kristen personally invited the girl to hang out with her for the day. and on oprah this girl was explaining how much kristen was a role model to her and how much kristen helped her to not be shy, kristen looked like she was going to cry because she could be that for someone and kristen gave the girl her ring that she wears in the twilight movies. never has she been ungracious to her fans. and about her choosing to act, just because she is an actress it doesn't she has to have her life invaded. she doesn't act to be famous or for money or whatever, she acts because she loves to do it. she picks roles that mean something to her, and she just wants the story to be told. that why she mostly chooses to do indie films. and she is very great full for her fans. and as for her interviews, how would you feel if you were asked the same stupid question everyday? all she is asked is wether or not she is dating robert pattinson, yea they do movies together but all the interviewers do is try to figure out the juiciest news they can spread around the tabloids. i'm not saying kristen is perfect because nobody is, but she cares about what she does, she cares about her fans and she is a down to earth person who just wants to do what she loves, and that happens to be acting.

Jo Anna said:
Wow this is a heavy topic of conversation.  I think the actors despite a few have done very well with the characters.  Do I think KStew ruined any of the films, no!  When I watched New Moon I really felt her pain and infact when I am down and want to be depressed I will watch that movie and cry with Bella.  As for her public appearances and her being bitchy hmmm..  I think she can be bitchy and extremely overwhelmed in public and with the paparazzi.  I think she could be more gracious to her fans and has made comments that didn't show a warm side to her.  I think when you choose a career that is going to cause fame you should expect people to invade your personal life, it is the nature of the beast.  I do think she could be more kind however maybe in time she will soften some.  Now I don't blame her one bit for being uncomfy in interviews I would be the exact same way......
i wasn't obsessed and that was before i found out she was a stupid
conceded b****. we aren't even talking about miley fucktard cyrus. and yeah okay i like kristen a lot, so what. and you liked buffy the vampire too. you use to watch it with me.


Jessica Johnson said:
no you dont, youre just saying that because i caught you in your over obsessed ways. and i feel like they dont all seek it. true lindsey and paris hilton both have gotten into drugs and s*** like that that just call for more attention but that doesnt mean they do it for attention. s*** stephani you used to be obsessed like this over buffy the vampire slayer, and miley cyrus/hannah montana. haha, i remember when repeats of hannah montana would come on and you'd b**** me the f*** out for changing the f****** channel. i also remember how you use to search for pictures of hannah montana/miley cyrus and decorate them the way you do with all these twilight ones. you have an obsessiver nature about you, i just dont like it.
stephani johnson said:
yes, i feel the same way about them to a degree. i don't really care for those other people because they seek the attention, minus nicole richie. kristen just wants to enjoy her private life like a normal person does. and the paps should really respect that.

Jessica Johnson said:


haha im in this conversation because i had a disagreement with you and you posted it on here because you are that obsessive? okay, so you feel for her because she has all these men chasing her with cameras and taking pictures. do you feel for miley cyrus then? lindsey lohan? paris hilton? nicole richie? and all these other young girls that get chased by so many men each and every day just because they are famous also? 

or is it just kristen stewart?

stephani johnson said:

okay, jessica yeah she chose to be an actress but just because of that choice she doesn't deserve to have fifty fricking men chasing her down and flashing camera's in her face every time she steps out side her damn house. and she wasn't making herself out to be the victim, she was just trying to describe what her life is like. and she apologized for her comment, have you seen the pictures of her and the paparazzi? they hound her for pictures and when she ignores them they call her a b****. when that doesn't work they insult her just to get a reaction out of her. it's sickening. how would you feel if you had tons of people taking pictures of you and documenting you every move? even though you like the attention, i'm sure you wouldn't like it 24/7. and when she started acting she never expected to to be famous she just wanted to do what she loves to do. why do you think she mostly chooses indie film that almost never get released and when they do they take three years. she does it because she loves it. you are mostly in this discussion just to annoy me. you wouldn't even care about her if i didn't.


tJessica Johnson said:

she made a comment about her pictures with the paparazzi is like her looking at someone being raped. that is not appropriate to say, in fact it makes me feel like she thinks she is a victim. she chose this life. she chose to be an actress. no one held a gun to her head and said go act. she chose it. she knew before becoming an actress that it meant her life would be completely invaded. im not saying what the paparazzi does is right, but she knew it would happen. her fault. she shouldn't make horrible comments like that and flick the cameras off just because of something she chose. she has many young impressionable fans that see that crap.

stephani johnson said:
okay. i am going to address some of the things you said about kristen. kristen isn't gracious to her fans and she says things that aren't warm? what have you been reading? everything i have ever seen that has to do with kristen and her fans, she has been nothing but nice to them. it actually makes her feel sad that she can't do everything for them. when she is at premiers or any other public appearance, she tries so hard to sign as many autographs as she can but she runs out of time. she cries when they do. this one time she was being chased by not only the paps but also some fans and this one girl was crying so bad and you could see how much it upset kristen that she couldn't do anything about it because her body guard pulled her away. and another time these fans waited outside her house all day until she came home and when she did it was really late and kristen was tired but she was still as nice as ever and signed the autographs. and this other time this fan wrote kristen a letter saying how much kristen means to her and kristen personally invited the girl to hang out with her for the day. and on oprah this girl was explaining how much kristen was a role model to her and how much kristen helped her to not be shy, kristen looked like she was going to cry because she could be that for someone and kristen gave the girl her ring that she wears in the twilight movies. never has she been ungracious to her fans. and about her choosing to act, just because she is an actress it doesn't she has to have her life invaded. she doesn't act to be famous or for money or whatever, she acts because she loves to do it. she picks roles that mean something to her, and she just wants the story to be told. that why she mostly chooses to do indie films. and she is very great full for her fans. and as for her interviews, how would you feel if you were asked the same stupid question everyday? all she is asked is wether or not she is dating robert pattinson, yea they do movies together but all the interviewers do is try to figure out the juiciest news they can spread around the tabloids. i'm not saying kristen is perfect because nobody is, but she cares about what she does, she cares about her fans and she is a down to earth person who just wants to do what she loves, and that happens to be acting.

Jo Anna said:
Wow this is a heavy topic of conversation.  I think the actors despite a few have done very well with the characters.  Do I think KStew ruined any of the films, no!  When I watched New Moon I really felt her pain and infact when I am down and want to be depressed I will watch that movie and cry with Bella.  As for her public appearances and her being bitchy hmmm..  I think she can be bitchy and extremely overwhelmed in public and with the paparazzi.  I think she could be more gracious to her fans and has made comments that didn't show a warm side to her.  I think when you choose a career that is going to cause fame you should expect people to invade your personal life, it is the nature of the beast.  I do think she could be more kind however maybe in time she will soften some.  Now I don't blame her one bit for being uncomfy in interviews I would be the exact same way......
you have got to be f****** kidding me! how would you know? have you ever read an article or watched an interview of them? no, in ever single interview i have read or seen, all of the stars said they didn't expect twilight to be a huge hit. and we are not obsessed, we are just big fans.

Jessica Johnson said:
I feel like the books were a pretty big f****** deal even before twilight came out, hmm.. good books = big movie blow out usually correct? yess,  duh they knew they were going to get famous off of it, maybe not as much as it is, but still f****** famous. I just bet they didn't think they would have overally obsessed creeps basically having an orgasm whenever they see a damn picture of them or hear their f****** name

stephani johnson said:
that's the point. she never had to deal with that before and it could be disorienting and stressful, and no one ever dreamed of twilight becoming this successful. did you know that twilight was a indie film with a low budget? no i bet not. the movie blew up over night so all the actors were thrust into this pretty quickly so they didn't have time to prepare for the fame.   

Jessica Johnson said:
you act like she was famous before twilight. she was a small time actor; now she is famous; because of twilight.  and she chose to do twilight, she was how old doing twilight? i think she was fully capable of understand what fame would do to her. 

Carmen Rohde said:
I truly don't believe that Kristen or any other actor truly understands the impact that fame will have on their personal lives.  When the most of the other actors started in the business, they were older than Kristen. Taylor used to come over from Michigan for auditions etc.  He admitted that he sought the fame but now that he has it that sometimes it's not always pleasant.  I think that when someone starts after High School such as Ashley has a little more time to think about what they're getting into than someone who starts at age 8.  She is not the only actor that has trouble with the interference that the constant scrutiny has in their lives.  Some just are able to accept it sooner, Kristen seemed to be more comfortable and open with interviews prior to the saga, and is now starting to get her self confidence back.
which sister? i would stick up for them just as much as i do about this. just no one has offended my by criticizing any of my sister except you about star, and i don't care if people talk bad about her because she is a b**** who needs to be slapped. 

Jessica Johnson said:

haha you dont even stick up for your sister this way, now thats pathetic.
stephani johnson said:
that is not true. if there wasn't a world without twilight then i wouldn't know anything about it there for it wouldn't bother me. and i am not overly obsessed, i just like the actress and enjoy her movies and as a fan i have the right to defend her. yeah yeah i know you are thinking that she doesn't even know i exist, but that wont stop me from liking or sticking up for her. 

Jessica Johnson said:
hahaha, yeah okay stephani. you are just overally obsessed and can't even fathom a world without her. your life would crumble to pieces if you didn't have twilight in your life. pathetic.

stephani johnson said:
i would just like to say that i just watched new moon and my cousin is just full of s***. kristen did everything right in that movie.

well find me the link, or i wont believe it at all. and having her cake and eating it too means she cant have the best of both worlds. she can't have the fame and money and not have her personal life invaded.
stephani johnson said:
she didn't say it to her face, it was mentioned in an interview that jody foster did, there was a link to it but i don't remember where i found it on. and what do you mean she can't have her cake and eat it too? that s*** never made sense to me.

Jessica Johnson said:

she cant have her cake and eat it too. she isnt hannah montana; she cant have the best of both worlds. and i would love to see where you learned that from? i can't imagine an actress saying to a young girl "oh youre not going to make it because you're not in it for the money and fame" yeah totally sounds legit. so get me the article that says that please.  and please she is only so "famous" because of over obsessed creeps like you guys that have nothing better to do than sit and cyber stalk these celebrities.
stephani johnson said:

did you know that Jody Foster, kristen's co-star in Panic Room, said that she thought that kristen wasn't going to make it as an actress because kristen told her that she wan't in it for the fame and money? and Jody thought she didn't have the right drive to be an actress because of that. ( not to hate on jody foster or anything, and jody didn't mean any harm from what she said, so people who read's this don't get the wrong idea okay? ) and look where she is now, she is one of the most famous celebs right now and has made a handful of movies and has worked with some of the top respected and A list actors. yeah she chose this profession, i'm sure on some level she did know what she was getting herself into but she never expected it to be at this magnitude. she is very grateful of her fame and for her fans. she loves that she can be a role model for girls, but at the same time she just wants to be like the rest of us too.


Jessica Johnson said:


wow, so just because she started young means that she fell in love with it and all the other actors didnt just because they didn't start as young? they only want money and fame? what proof do you have of that. and as i said before no its not right of the paparazzi to do the things they do, but she knew that before choosing to do this as a career.
Carmen Rohde said:

J

essica, she immediately apologized for the use of the work Rape.  Kristen does not take rape lightly.  She has  spoken for support groups and for rape prevention groups. Her apology was immediate and sincere.  While it's true that she chose her profession, it also true that there many paparazzi that are verbally abusive, physically aggressive and quite sometimes frightening.  Many times they have endangered their own lives, the lives of their subjects, and innocent bystanders to get a photograph or reaction.  Unlike Kellan, Jackson, Taylor, Ashley, Anna and even Rob who left their hometowns, their states, their countries looking for fame and fortune, Kristen began acting when she was 8 years Old. She fell in love with the process. I don't care how famous you get, or why a person becomes famous, no one has to share every private moment with the rest of the world. There was a situation where she was walking to her car and all of a sudden she was surrounded by 25 men.  She was frightened. She tried to run into a restaurant but it was closed.  She is not the only celebrity who has complained about this. Every co-star that has worked with her and/or Rob say that they could never put with up the constant scrutiny and invasion of privacy that she and Rob have put up with.  She is not talking about the legitimate press or her fans.   I have seen her many times go out of her way for fans.

Jessica Johnson said:

she made a comment about her pictures with the paparazzi is like her looking at someone being raped. that is not appropriate to say, in fact it makes me feel like she thinks she is a victim. she chose this life. she chose to be an actress. no one held a gun to her head and said go act. she chose it. she knew before becoming an actress that it meant her life would be completely invaded. im not saying what the paparazzi does is right, but she knew it would happen. her fault. she shouldn't make horrible comments like that and flick the cameras off just because of something she chose. she has many young impressionable fans that see that crap.

stephani johnson said:
okay. i am going to address some of the things you said about kristen. kristen isn't gracious to her fans and she says things that aren't warm? what have you been reading? everything i have ever seen that has to do with kristen and her fans, she has been nothing but nice to them. it actually makes her feel sad that she can't do everything for them. when she is at premiers or any other public appearance, she tries so hard to sign as many autographs as she can but she runs out of time. she cries when they do. this one time she was being chased by not only the paps but also some fans and this one girl was crying so bad and you could see how much it upset kristen that she couldn't do anything about it because her body guard pulled her away. and another time these fans waited outside her house all day until she came home and when she did it was really late and kristen was tired but she was still as nice as ever and signed the autographs. and this other time this fan wrote kristen a letter saying how much kristen means to her and kristen personally invited the girl to hang out with her for the day. and on oprah this girl was explaining how much kristen was a role model to her and how much kristen helped her to not be shy, kristen looked like she was going to cry because she could be that for someone and kristen gave the girl her ring that she wears in the twilight movies. never has she been ungracious to her fans. and about her choosing to act, just because she is an actress it doesn't she has to have her life invaded. she doesn't act to be famous or for money or whatever, she acts because she loves to do it. she picks roles that mean something to her, and she just wants the story to be told. that why she mostly chooses to do indie films. and she is very great full for her fans. and as for her interviews, how would you feel if you were asked the same stupid question everyday? all she is asked is wether or not she is dating robert pattinson, yea they do movies together but all the interviewers do is try to figure out the juiciest news they can spread around the tabloids. i'm not saying kristen is perfect because nobody is, but she cares about what she does, she cares about her fans and she is a down to earth person who just wants to do what she loves, and that happens to be acting.

Jo Anna said:
Wow this is a heavy topic of conversation.  I think the actors despite a few have done very well with the characters.  Do I think KStew ruined any of the films, no!  When I watched New Moon I really felt her pain and infact when I am down and want to be depressed I will watch that movie and cry with Bella.  As for her public appearances and her being bitchy hmmm..  I think she can be bitchy and extremely overwhelmed in public and with the paparazzi.  I think she could be more gracious to her fans and has made comments that didn't show a warm side to her.  I think when you choose a career that is going to cause fame you should expect people to invade your personal life, it is the nature of the beast.  I do think she could be more kind however maybe in time she will soften some.  Now I don't blame her one bit for being uncomfy in interviews I would be the exact same way......
its an irritating opinion because you are obsessed. lets see you like chocolate, my opinion is that chocolate is nasty.. is that irritating too? no because you're arent obsessed with chocolate.

stephani johnson said:
i know you are, but it's an irritating opinion.

stephani johnson said:
she didn't say it to her face, it was mentioned in an interview that jody foster did, there was a link to it but i don't remember where i found it on. and what do you mean she can't have her cake and eat it too? that s*** never made sense to me.

Jessica Johnson said:

she cant have her cake and eat it too. she isnt hannah montana; she cant have the best of both worlds. and i would love to see where you learned that from? i can't imagine an actress saying to a young girl "oh youre not going to make it because you're not in it for the money and fame" yeah totally sounds legit. so get me the article that says that please.  and please she is only so "famous" because of over obsessed creeps like you guys that have nothing better to do than sit and cyber stalk these celebrities.
stephani johnson said:

did you know that Jody Foster, kristen's co-star in Panic Room, said that she thought that kristen wasn't going to make it as an actress because kristen told her that she wan't in it for the fame and money? and Jody thought she didn't have the right drive to be an actress because of that. ( not to hate on jody foster or anything, and jody didn't mean any harm from what she said, so people who read's this don't get the wrong idea okay? ) and look where she is now, she is one of the most famous celebs right now and has made a handful of movies and has worked with some of the top respected and A list actors. yeah she chose this profession, i'm sure on some level she did know what she was getting herself into but she never expected it to be at this magnitude. she is very grateful of her fame and for her fans. she loves that she can be a role model for girls, but at the same time she just wants to be like the rest of us too.


Jessica Johnson said:


wow, so just because she started young means that she fell in love with it and all the other actors didnt just because they didn't start as young? they only want money and fame? what proof do you have of that. and as i said before no its not right of the paparazzi to do the things they do, but she knew that before choosing to do this as a career.
Carmen Rohde said:

J

essica, she immediately apologized for the use of the work Rape.  Kristen does not take rape lightly.  She has  spoken for support groups and for rape prevention groups. Her apology was immediate and sincere.  While it's true that she chose her profession, it also true that there many paparazzi that are verbally abusive, physically aggressive and quite sometimes frightening.  Many times they have endangered their own lives, the lives of their subjects, and innocent bystanders to get a photograph or reaction.  Unlike Kellan, Jackson, Taylor, Ashley, Anna and even Rob who left their hometowns, their states, their countries looking for fame and fortune, Kristen began acting when she was 8 years Old. She fell in love with the process. I don't care how famous you get, or why a person becomes famous, no one has to share every private moment with the rest of the world. There was a situation where she was walking to her car and all of a sudden she was surrounded by 25 men.  She was frightened. She tried to run into a restaurant but it was closed.  She is not the only celebrity who has complained about this. Every co-star that has worked with her and/or Rob say that they could never put with up the constant scrutiny and invasion of privacy that she and Rob have put up with.  She is not talking about the legitimate press or her fans.   I have seen her many times go out of her way for fans.

Jessica Johnson said:

she made a comment about her pictures with the paparazzi is like her looking at someone being raped. that is not appropriate to say, in fact it makes me feel like she thinks she is a victim. she chose this life. she chose to be an actress. no one held a gun to her head and said go act. she chose it. she knew before becoming an actress that it meant her life would be completely invaded. im not saying what the paparazzi does is right, but she knew it would happen. her fault. she shouldn't make horrible comments like that and flick the cameras off just because of something she chose. she has many young impressionable fans that see that crap.

stephani johnson said:
okay. i am going to address some of the things you said about kristen. kristen isn't gracious to her fans and she says things that aren't warm? what have you been reading? everything i have ever seen that has to do with kristen and her fans, she has been nothing but nice to them. it actually makes her feel sad that she can't do everything for them. when she is at premiers or any other public appearance, she tries so hard to sign as many autographs as she can but she runs out of time. she cries when they do. this one time she was being chased by not only the paps but also some fans and this one girl was crying so bad and you could see how much it upset kristen that she couldn't do anything about it because her body guard pulled her away. and another time these fans waited outside her house all day until she came home and when she did it was really late and kristen was tired but she was still as nice as ever and signed the autographs. and this other time this fan wrote kristen a letter saying how much kristen means to her and kristen personally invited the girl to hang out with her for the day. and on oprah this girl was explaining how much kristen was a role model to her and how much kristen helped her to not be shy, kristen looked like she was going to cry because she could be that for someone and kristen gave the girl her ring that she wears in the twilight movies. never has she been ungracious to her fans. and about her choosing to act, just because she is an actress it doesn't she has to have her life invaded. she doesn't act to be famous or for money or whatever, she acts because she loves to do it. she picks roles that mean something to her, and she just wants the story to be told. that why she mostly chooses to do indie films. and she is very great full for her fans. and as for her interviews, how would you feel if you were asked the same stupid question everyday? all she is asked is wether or not she is dating robert pattinson, yea they do movies together but all the interviewers do is try to figure out the juiciest news they can spread around the tabloids. i'm not saying kristen is perfect because nobody is, but she cares about what she does, she cares about her fans and she is a down to earth person who just wants to do what she loves, and that happens to be acting.

Jo Anna said:
Wow this is a heavy topic of conversation.  I think the actors despite a few have done very well with the characters.  Do I think KStew ruined any of the films, no!  When I watched New Moon I really felt her pain and infact when I am down and want to be depressed I will watch that movie and cry with Bella.  As for her public appearances and her being bitchy hmmm..  I think she can be bitchy and extremely overwhelmed in public and with the paparazzi.  I think she could be more gracious to her fans and has made comments that didn't show a warm side to her.  I think when you choose a career that is going to cause fame you should expect people to invade your personal life, it is the nature of the beast.  I do think she could be more kind however maybe in time she will soften some.  Now I don't blame her one bit for being uncomfy in interviews I would be the exact same way......

lol, you were too obsessed. you would google her just to learn new facts about her. i probably have a ton of pictures you did of her on my photobucket saved for you still. haha. and i wasnt obsessed with buffy like you. i watched the show with you but i didnt watch every single episode one hundred times like you did. i also didnt have 300+ pictures on my wall like you did.
stephani johnson said:
i wasn't obsessed and that was before i found out she was a stupid
conceded b****. we aren't even talking about miley fucktard cyrus. and yeah okay i like kristen a lot, so what. and you liked buffy the vampire too. you use to watch it with me.


Jessica Johnson said:
no you dont, youre just saying that because i caught you in your over obsessed ways. and i feel like they dont all seek it. true lindsey and paris hilton both have gotten into drugs and s*** like that that just call for more attention but that doesnt mean they do it for attention. s*** stephani you used to be obsessed like this over buffy the vampire slayer, and miley cyrus/hannah montana. haha, i remember when repeats of hannah montana would come on and you'd b**** me the f*** out for changing the f****** channel. i also remember how you use to search for pictures of hannah montana/miley cyrus and decorate them the way you do with all these twilight ones. you have an obsessiver nature about you, i just dont like it.
stephani johnson said:
yes, i feel the same way about them to a degree. i don't really care for those other people because they seek the attention, minus nicole richie. kristen just wants to enjoy her private life like a normal person does. and the paps should really respect that.

Jessica Johnson said:


haha im in this conversation because i had a disagreement with you and you posted it on here because you are that obsessive? okay, so you feel for her because she has all these men chasing her with cameras and taking pictures. do you feel for miley cyrus then? lindsey lohan? paris hilton? nicole richie? and all these other young girls that get chased by so many men each and every day just because they are famous also? 

or is it just kristen stewart?

stephani johnson said:

okay, jessica yeah she chose to be an actress but just because of that choice she doesn't deserve to have fifty fricking men chasing her down and flashing camera's in her face every time she steps out side her damn house. and she wasn't making herself out to be the victim, she was just trying to describe what her life is like. and she apologized for her comment, have you seen the pictures of her and the paparazzi? they hound her for pictures and when she ignores them they call her a b****. when that doesn't work they insult her just to get a reaction out of her. it's sickening. how would you feel if you had tons of people taking pictures of you and documenting you every move? even though you like the attention, i'm sure you wouldn't like it 24/7. and when she started acting she never expected to to be famous she just wanted to do what she loves to do. why do you think she mostly chooses indie film that almost never get released and when they do they take three years. she does it because she loves it. you are mostly in this discussion just to annoy me. you wouldn't even care about her if i didn't.


tJessica Johnson said:

she made a comment about her pictures with the paparazzi is like her looking at someone being raped. that is not appropriate to say, in fact it makes me feel like she thinks she is a victim. she chose this life. she chose to be an actress. no one held a gun to her head and said go act. she chose it. she knew before becoming an actress that it meant her life would be completely invaded. im not saying what the paparazzi does is right, but she knew it would happen. her fault. she shouldn't make horrible comments like that and flick the cameras off just because of something she chose. she has many young impressionable fans that see that crap.

stephani johnson said:
okay. i am going to address some of the things you said about kristen. kristen isn't gracious to her fans and she says things that aren't warm? what have you been reading? everything i have ever seen that has to do with kristen and her fans, she has been nothing but nice to them. it actually makes her feel sad that she can't do everything for them. when she is at premiers or any other public appearance, she tries so hard to sign as many autographs as she can but she runs out of time. she cries when they do. this one time she was being chased by not only the paps but also some fans and this one girl was crying so bad and you could see how much it upset kristen that she couldn't do anything about it because her body guard pulled her away. and another time these fans waited outside her house all day until she came home and when she did it was really late and kristen was tired but she was still as nice as ever and signed the autographs. and this other time this fan wrote kristen a letter saying how much kristen means to her and kristen personally invited the girl to hang out with her for the day. and on oprah this girl was explaining how much kristen was a role model to her and how much kristen helped her to not be shy, kristen looked like she was going to cry because she could be that for someone and kristen gave the girl her ring that she wears in the twilight movies. never has she been ungracious to her fans. and about her choosing to act, just because she is an actress it doesn't she has to have her life invaded. she doesn't act to be famous or for money or whatever, she acts because she loves to do it. she picks roles that mean something to her, and she just wants the story to be told. that why she mostly chooses to do indie films. and she is very great full for her fans. and as for her interviews, how would you feel if you were asked the same stupid question everyday? all she is asked is wether or not she is dating robert pattinson, yea they do movies together but all the interviewers do is try to figure out the juiciest news they can spread around the tabloids. i'm not saying kristen is perfect because nobody is, but she cares about what she does, she cares about her fans and she is a down to earth person who just wants to do what she loves, and that happens to be acting.

Jo Anna said:
Wow this is a heavy topic of conversation.  I think the actors despite a few have done very well with the characters.  Do I think KStew ruined any of the films, no!  When I watched New Moon I really felt her pain and infact when I am down and want to be depressed I will watch that movie and cry with Bella.  As for her public appearances and her being bitchy hmmm..  I think she can be bitchy and extremely overwhelmed in public and with the paparazzi.  I think she could be more gracious to her fans and has made comments that didn't show a warm side to her.  I think when you choose a career that is going to cause fame you should expect people to invade your personal life, it is the nature of the beast.  I do think she could be more kind however maybe in time she will soften some.  Now I don't blame her one bit for being uncomfy in interviews I would be the exact same way......

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