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Permalink Reply by Joanne on January 8, 2009 at 6:13am
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Permalink Reply by Brianna on January 8, 2009 at 3:49pm I would like to commend you for speaking out and using your knowledge and experience to critique the movie. I think the superficial (albeit, fun) conversations that we have about these books and the movie are what the Haters use to bash us with, when in reality many of us have educated opinions that deserve to be heard and argued.
I agree with you, Brianna, on the fact that the acting is not the main flaw of the film and that we should be looking at the directing choices, but I'd like to add the script itself to the list, as well. One of the examples that Brianna gives is the dialogue, "and so the lion fell in love with the lamb." In the book it was definitely poetic and is a huge catch phrase online and on merchandise. Why wouldn't it be? It's a great line, but I was one of those people who cringed when I saw it on screen. The dialogue is verbatim from the book and yet it falls flat on the big screen. It falls flat because of the script. I'm sure that hearing the phrase would sound sappy and cheesy no matter who said it, but I think it truly falls flat because of the way the script was constructed.
As many, myself included, have expressed disappointment with the entire confrontation and meadow scene, I think it is important to note that the dialogue didn't fit into the rhythm of the movie because the entire sequence of the scene was disjointed and choppy.
Stephanie expressed in an interview that she was weary to have the book made into a film because the production company would have all of the rights and could then do whatever they pleased, but she chose to go ahead with the film because the idea of seeing the meadow scene come to life was too much to pass up. I wonder if she is truly happy with how it turned out; I'm not. I think the entire segment was butchered and sounded forced. It made me feel uncomfortable to hear Edward get forceful with Bella--"Say it." he pushed her, "Out loud." It was just all wrong. And then, out of the blue he races her up the mountain to see his skin. (Let's not even get into the fact that they were high up on the mountain and then were all of a sudden lying together in a flat meadow.)
I believe the same holds true of the scene when Edward and Bella are driving back from Port Angeles and the dialogue is something like, "My dad is still here. What is going on?" It's forced, and it's not because of the delivery, it's because the line is ridiculous. It's a crap line that didn't even need to be in the movie. I can understand why the producers needed to intersperse the bad vamps throughout the entire movie, but the part with Waylan's death is forced and is hard to watch, because it didn't belong in there at all.
What truly troubles me is that, for the most part, the book didn't need to be changed that much and it was anyway. I understand the need to edit out the biology blood typing to keep the movie from becoming too long. I understand cutting out characters like Lauren so the cast doesn't get too large. I understand low budgets that give us cheesy sparkling. I understand all of that, but why did the meadow scene need to be changed? What would have been so wrong with Bella learning about vampires the way she did in the book--by googling it and then confronting Edward on the way back from Port Angeles? Then the meadow scene could have run just like it did in the book and it would have been a much sweeter moment. The entire thing was wrong because they forced the extra scene on us and it was superfluous to the movie.
On the opposite side, I must say, the scene where the Cullens are cooking dinner for Bella was added to the movie and I had no problem with it, because the scene aided the telling of the story as opposed to hindering it. What it all comes down to, for me, is the script writing. Though, I can see where lots of the flaws are directorial over bad acting, like Kristen's stuttering. Sure, it came out of her mouth, but Catherine must have liked it or she did not have a problem with it or else we'd have something else in it's place.
I'm going to second a couple things that Brianna said as well:
I am the kind of person who appreciates things for what they are.
Twilight is the farthest thing from reality, that is frankly, quite melodramatic, sappy, and contains significant cheesy dialogue. I also recognize that these are all the reasons I was bitten and smitten in the first place!
One of the most beautiful things about literature is that it is left to everyone's individual perspective and interpretation. It would have been impossible to satisfy everyone's interpretations.
Twilight the movie was not perfect, nor could it have been. But it was darn near close enough for me to see it 6 times and counting!
Sorry to copy what you wrote, Brianna, but I couldn't have said it any better or any differently that you did. I feel exactly the same way on those points. Thank you again for your perspective and can't wait to see what else you've got running through your mind.
Permalink Reply by Brianna on January 8, 2009 at 3:56pm I got to see it for the first time at the midnight showing surrounded by screaming girls and I could not help being excited. However I could not help having high expections because of all the excitement around me. So when the movie ended I was very unsure about how I felt. Since then I have seen it nine times and it just gets better and better. The second time I was it I tried to go into it with no expections and to not anaylize it as it played but to just watch and enjoy. After I appreciated it so much more. Once I stopped comparing it to the books, because who are we kidding it could never compare to the books, I really, really liked.
I have a theory on why people were so harsh on Kristen. It has been said many times the Bella is a relatable character. Because of this and the fact that she is narratoring the story it is easy to put some of yourself into the Bella. Even so I think that they writers did not make Bella stubborn enough, but that is for the next discussion.
I was a little disappointed in the meadow scene as well, but ,unlike many fans, that has never been my favorite part for some reason. I did feel some Chemistry between Edward and Bella but you did not see their playfullness like you do in the book. The writers really focused on the serious side on their relationship, especially for Edward. This really disappointed me because I love that side of him, but there are still more movies to come.
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