Thinking about the Saga and knowing that I'm done reading it... the only thing that I have left is to surf for new information on the production of the films... New Moon, Eclipse and Breaking Dawn... Also waiting to see when will Stephenie Meyer will release Midnight Sun....
But am I the only one that thinks that the Twilight Men are Dead Gorgeous... I don't think so... but why are obsessed with them?... that's my question... and remember that I'm talking about the Novel Characters not the actors that portray the characters... they just help our imagination picture them better.... and God they did a great job casting this actors...
But, What characteristics do we as women love about these men!... Its not only because they are hot as actors, what made you love them?....
I will start with mine:...
My favorite Twilight Character is Edward Cullen... duh!!!...
Edward is charming, polite, determined, and very stubborn. He is very protective. He often over-analyzes situations and has a tendency to overreact, especially in situations where safety is at risk. He retains some outdated speech from his human life in the early 20th century.
Like all the vampires, Edward is described as being impossibly beautiful. He is compared to the mythical Greek god Adonis. His skin is "like marble"—very pale, ice cold, and sparkles in the sunlight. His facial features are perfect and angular—high cheekbones, strong jawline, a straight nose, and full lips. His hair, which is always messy, retains the unusual bronze shade. His eyes, once green, are now described as topaz. His appearance changes if he goes long without feeding: his eyes darken, becoming almost black, and purple bruises appear beneath his eyes. Edward is 6'2", and has a slender but muscular body.
Edward, possesses superhuman strength, speed, endurance, and agility, and is described as being inhumanly beautiful. His scent and voice are enormously seductive.
He is the fastest of the Cullens, able to outrun any of them. Perhaps as a result of a talent for empathy in his human life, Edward can also read the mind of anyone within a few miles of himself. Edward also retains some of the traditional mindset and dated patterns of speech from his early-20th century human life.
Edward is musical, able to play the piano like a virtuoso. He enjoys a wide range of music, including classical, jazz, progressive metal, alternative rock, and punk rock, but dislikes country. He prefers indie rock to mainstream, and appreciates rock and classical music equally. He mentions that he likes music from the fifties better than the sixties, dislikes the seventies, and says the eighties were "bearable".
A hobby of Edward's is collecting cars. He owns a Volvo S60 R and an Aston Martin V12 Vanquish as a "special occasion" car. He bought a motorcycle to ride alongside Bella.
Now... what is your favorite Twilight Man? and Why?... It can be more than one!... You can also post pictures...
Why Are Women Obsessed with Twilight?
Danger, Masochism's Good Original, Bad Boys, and What Women Want
Women, from teens to ancients, are in love with Twilight's Edward Cullen. Few know what makes them obsessed with him. He's hot, they'll say. If you ask why, most will shrug and say, he just is. Maybe they'll throw in that he is a gentleman. On the other hand, many critics will tell you that Twilight is the story of a disturbingly abusive relationship with an incredibly dangerous and charming man. Ted Bundy anyone? It has been accused.
So I feel like attempting to explain. First, I give my theory on why girls are obsessed with Twilight, bringing in the accusations that Twilight is about an abusive and masochistic relationship. And then I talk about why girls like the 'bad boys', which ties right back into Edward Cullen (...or does it?).
So to start, I must admit I feel the draw of Twilight as much as the next girl, mother, and grandmother. But for me, it's not the first time I've felt this. The first time was with Lord of the Rings. There were six specific parts that I read hundreds of times. I couldn't get enough of them. I wondered, for years, why I was so addicted to them.
The interesting part is that none of them are romance. The parts are where they first meet Aragorn in the inn, when they meet Glorfindel the elf who rescues Frodo and gets him to Rivendell safely, when they go into Lothlorien and run into the elves guarding the forest, when they first meet Eomer and almost get themselves killed, when Frodo and Sam meet Faramir, and when Faramir scares them as though he will take the ring but then doesn't. Mostly scenes where they meet new people, but the last one isn't, and there were other scenes where they meet new people and I didn't have the same reaction. So what was the common theme? Believe it or not, I think it's the same reason women are drawn to Twilight and Edward Cullen.
In Lord of the Rings, there is a small part that is deeper than it looks. Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas were told the entire time not to enter Fangorn forest, because it was dangerous. Then they meet up with Gandalf again and he wants to take them there. They are confused, since Fangorn is dangerous.
"Dangerous!" cried Gandalf. "And so am I, very dangerous: more dangerous than anything you will ever meet, unless you are brought alive before the seat of the Dark Lord. And Aragorn is dangerous, and Legolas is dangerous. You are beset with dangers, Gimli, for you are dangerous yourself,
in your own fashion. Certainly... Fangorn himself, he is perilous too; yet he is wise and kindly nonetheless." (Tolkien, 488)
I love that!! Similarly, for a long time I thought of God as powerful and nice. Then a friend of mine died. A nice God suddenly seemed unrealistic. Especially after reading the Old Testament. I started to realize the God in the Bible, if real, is not 'nice'. Loving, yes. But nice in a weak push-over always make you happy sort of way? Nope. He would be terrifyingly dangerous. And I LOVE that! Tolkien wrote a short story called "The Smith of Wooten Major." The main character goes to Fairy Land (a supernatural realm) and it is dangerous because he is human. Sure, there are evils there. But even the really good things "cannot be approached without danger." (Tolkien, 24) Like God. Or in Chronicles of Narnia, Aslan is not a 'tame' lion, but he is good. It's just this really cool idea of something purely good still being deadly, because the goodness is so powerful that it would kill a mere mortal. In the Bible, God tells Moses he can't see God's face because it would kill him. It isn't that God is being mean, he's just saying, "Moses... You are so small and I am so powerful that you can't handle it." God is always compared to light in the Bible... the strongest lights, like lasers, would destroy you if you were in them, even if they are good, because you are just flesh. It's just a good that is too powerful/concentrated for us. So... I mean, I love thunderstorms and fire and the ocean, and I love sitting outside watching lightning and I'm drawn to anything powerful, and these are good things... but I know they can still kill me.
Good is exciting when you look at it this way! "Bad guys have all the fun." Yeah right! Dangerous guys have all the fun. But you don't have to be bad to be dangerous. A strong enough good is just as exciting and wild and scary and free! I suspect it can be even more dangerous, and a scarier way to live, but that is another topic.
So I was obsessed with those six parts in Lord of the Rings. And separately from that, I grew to love the idea of a goodness so powerful it would kill us because it means that in a world with evil strong enough to utterly destroy, there is a goodness that is just as powerful as that evil.
It's a really gritty and scary goodness that can actually be trusted to stand against and defeat the evil that I hate and fear, and there is a lot of that in this world.
I finally put all these things together and figured out why women love Twilight (or in my case the LOTR parts) when two of my friends were talking about a move that will make someone pass out. The move would allow a small woman to take down a huge man. Being me, I asked what it felt like (and thought it fortunate I'm not a cat, as curiosity kills those), and so my friend did it to me. He told me to tap on his arm when I wanted him to stop, which I did right before I passed out.
It was the weirdest feeling ever, emotionally. It hit me that there was no way I could get away from him. I was completely helpless. He could even kill me if he held it long enough. But the weird part was knowing that he would never hurt me. Not only was I helpless, but I was completely safe. And I REALLY liked that feeling.
Which made me wonder for a second if I was a masochist; I like being made to pass out?? Great. So... what? All of us women who love Twilight (millions of us) are all masochists?? Many of us fans know that it has been accused often enough. "The deriving of sexual gratification from being physically or emotionally abused" (www.thefreedictionary.com/masochistic). Umm... this is NOT a good thing! Not to mention it doesn't make sense when you realize Edward in Twilight is a perfect gentleman, and women love that. So what is going on?
The answer is again in a story. Just so happens to be Tolkien again. There is a scene with Galadriel, a good elf queen. She asks Sam if he wants to look in her 'mirror', which is magical, for lack of a better word; "For this is what your folk would call magic, I believe; though I do not understand clearly what they mean; and they seem to use the same word of the deceits of the Enemy" (Tolkien 353). Another important story element to the answer is the origin of orcs and trolls in Tolkien's world. Orcs come from elves, and trolls from ents, who were captured and tortured and bred by the evil lords. I have heard that Tolkien said in his writings that evil cannot create, it can only distort and twist and ruin what is good, until it is a distinct evil thing.
From these I eventually realized two things; evil is often the distortion of the good (always? I don't know...). And often enough we don't have names for the good. For example, magic. Nowadays, it's like Galadriel says and we use the same word for everything. But traditionally, magic was
an evil supernatural power. But what is the name for the good supernatural power of angels and God? I don't think it exists. We have a name for fear, which is a bad thing. But what about the wisdom I have to treat a laser with caution? It is a good fear, but there is no name for it. It really isn't even good 'fear'. Because the distortions are never the original. While orcs may have come from elves, they are NOT elves. And elves are NOT orcs. It's inaccurate to call elves "good orcs". In the same way, fear may have come from that 'good caution regarding laser-pure good', but they are in no way each other. The English language needs more words.
But more importantly, how can we talk about something we have no language for? It is not easy. Selfishness is a distortion of the desire God gives us for good things; there are a lot of good things we are supposed to want. But we only talk about selflessness (giving everything up) and selfishness (wanting in a bad way). We rarely talk about the unnamed desire of the things we are supposed to want. We miss out on an entire world of goodness contained in Desire. Same with fear, rebellion, masochism... bad boys.
If we don't have a way to talk about what is really happening, then all critics are left with is the words 'masochism' and 'abusive relationship' when it comes to Edward and Bella. After all, he is dangerous, they say. Obviously this is abusive. What else could it be? Even serial killers are often good looking and charming. (on a side note, him being controlling in Eclipse made me as angry as anyone. But he grew and stopped that, so I forgive him.)
I think masochism does have a word for the good (some do). I think it is called intimacy. And I think I loved the feeling in those scenes of the story, and in my friend making me pass out, because they are examples of being vulnerable and safe. And that is exactly what intimacy is; safely vulnerable.
I also think women crave intimacy more than men. Why? Not sure. But let's try this explanation; I am always, in the back of my mind, feeling physically vulnerable. Most women, when walking down a street at night, are worried (not scared necessarily, maybe not even conscious of it at every
second, but it's there) about being raped or attacked. I think we are aware all the time of that danger, on some level. Guys are always surprised when I tell them... and it seems so obvious and common to all the girls I've talked to! So to feel safe is especially impactful for those who don't normally feel safe. It's like this gigantic relief, something out of the ordinary for us. Apparently one in three women around the world will be raped or coerced and abused into having sex against her will... saw that on BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7747601.stm). Lots of beatings too. Women are NOT living in safety around the world. And we are all aware of that to our very core. Gregory David Roberts, Shantaram's author (an amazing book!), is one of the few men to have figured this out. I found this on his website;
"A recent email, unique but addressing a fairly common theme among my readers, talked about how the reader's identification with my character, Karla, became much more poignant when it was revealed in the novel that the character had been raped by a man who was in a position of authority over her.
"I chose to give this aspect to my character's history because I felt it to be such an important issue. So many of the women I've known, across the world, have been sexually abused or assaulted, that I felt I had to incorporate this subject in my novel, Shantaram. I'm not exactly sure why, but women open up to me: they tell me things, quite often, that they haven't told their closest friends. During the course of many late night or quiet afternoon conversations, a lot of women - I mean, a lot: way more than half—have confided to me that they were sexually abused......
"One night, many years ago in Bombay, I was talking with some friends about the wonders that can be seen and experienced in a walk around Bombay city completely alone at 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning. One of my friends, a young Israeli, said, 'It must be good. Of course, as a woman, I can't do that.'
"It struck me - stupidly, for the first time—as horrifyingly unfair that women can't enjoy this great pleasure.... without fear that men will assault them. As this insight burned its way into my consciousness, and the stories of sexual attacks, told to me by women in every country where I lived, increased in number through the years, I resolved to include a component of this sexual abuse in my novel.....
"We [men] have to acknowledge that half of our species lives in fear of the other half—at least some of the time, and sometimes frequently—and that the shame and disgrace for that is ours....." (Roberts, Your Say)
So, to be vulnerable but also safe... it hits women deeper than any man can imagine. Even if it hits women subconsciously; which I think is usually the case.
Turns out every part in LOTR that I was obsessed with had this element. When they meet Aragorn, he tells them he could kill them right then and there. He is definitely dangerous. But he is good. Same when they meet Eomer; his whole group of soldiers surrounds them and has them at
sword/arrow point... but he is good. Down the list. It's always the common element to the parts of stories I feel addicted to; this element of being vulnerable, being surrounded by danger, but completely safe, even safer than before you were surrounded by the danger.
This is why women, I believe, are so obsessed with Twilight. Edward is, when it comes to humans, invincible-- no stakes through the heart in this story. In addition, vampires are very strong physically. And they want to eat people. They are incredibly dangerous. And when with him, if he wanted to hurt her, there would be NOTHING that Bella could do to protect herself. But Bella is safe, even safer with Edward around (as she's a bit of a danger magnet and he protects her). The intimacy increases in proportion to the 'helplessness', since that is vulnerability.
Notice, by the way, that all of this should make Jacob attractive too... which it does, although not as much to most women until his danger is more under control. The control Edward has is another thing women like... self-control is attractive, especially when it is a sacrifice because it is so hard. It helps us feel safe and valued, especially if the guy is dangerous and scary, which hopefully he is. Funny thing is that I keep saying feeling safe is attractive, but now I'm throwing in that a scary dangerous guy is preferable... contradiction? Nope. So without further ado...
I'm going to give my ideas on why women like the 'bad boys'. I know I have liked bad boys. There were several in high school I had huge crushes on. It was weird, because I'm a very nice girl.
I've got two explanations. The first one is that some girls are vain. A nice guy is nice to everyone. A bad boy is only nice to the girl he wants to sleep with or whatever... it's very flattering to be singled out as the one person worth someone's good treatment.... Of course, he'll eventually be a jerk to her too. (Which begs the question, how can a good guy make up for this attractive element? Mystery and 'modesty', I think; instead of being the only one he is nice to, be the only one he tells certain things about himself to, and be the only one he has a level of physical intimacy with... two things Edward succeeds at perfectly)
But the second explanation is that... we don't actually like bad boys. Seriously! It's just that it's the closest thing available to what we want, since the thing we want is one of those originals with no name. Back to the dangerous good idea above; I liked it when I realized that the God
I said I believe in is... REALLY scary! In that perfectly good, perfectly powerful way that could vaporize me like a laser. Instead, he is scary, dangerous, loving, protective, providing, kind... strong enough, gritty enough, harsh enough, to actually make a dent on the evils that are so powerful in the world. Turns out it isn't an attractive idea to me just when it comes to a god.
Men seem to think they have to be 'nice' or a 'bad boy'. I think though that women don't actually want either. I don't! What we want is someone who is very dangerous. But like Aragorn and Fangorn; 'wise and kindly nonetheless'. I have met guys like this... and they are really attractive. And I'll admit they've scared me on occasion... I'm not sure how interested I was the time they were talking about the right and wrong ways to cut a throat.... But even stronger was the realization that they were the kind of people who would, and could, protect me from the awful things I've learned about in the last few years; strong and dangerous enough. It gave me the paradox that the more they scared me, the more they comforted me. The more dangerous a good man is, the safer women feel, because that means he has a ton of potential scariness to use on our behalf. But I think we want to feel aware of that danger, because it makes us aware of how safe we are. So scary guys attract us... unfortunately, most of the scary guys these days are missing the good element. And the good guys are boring and weak, missing the danger. Leaves women wanting.
The problem with a 'nice' guy is that he is not dangerous enough to fight anything.
Women are drawn to dangerous men—because that is the safest place to be. Because the fact of the matter is that I do feel vulnerable walking down streets at night alone, no matter how independent I am. But the fact I eventually have to admit is... I'm little.
Strong, good, dangerous guys... there aren't many of them. We don't even have a name for them! Any ideas? But when women see one (hint hint, Edward Cullen), without even knowing why, we are STRONGLY drawn to it. Just look at the obsession Twilight is getting. Or back to Shantaram;
Lin; Why do you like me?
Karla; ....When I saw you singing to that woman on the beach—you're a very crazy guy, Lin. I love that. I think that's where your goodness comes from—your craziness.
Lin; My goodness?
Karla; Yes. There's a lot of goodness in you, Lin. It's very... it's a very hard thing to resist, real goodness, in a tough man. (Roberts, 504-505)
Roberts understands what I'm saying. Karla, raped, who knows what it is to fear men, also sees that a tough man, with real goodness, is what a woman can't resist. And real goodness is not a weak thing. It is strong and dangerous itself, which is why Lin had to be a tough man to be
irresistible; if he wasn't, there wouldn't even be the possibility of him being truly good.
(side note, physically dangerous and tough aren't the only types of danger. Pen is mightier than the sword, for example. Intellect, wit, charm, knowledge... all of these can be dangerous.)
I've had one experience with it. I haven't dated much and I'm the oldest child who kind of gets thrown into blazing the trail that the younger siblings can follow. It all just kind of adds together to make me pretty independent. I can usually stand up for myself and others, so no one ever sees the need to stand up for me. And while I'm not beautiful, I'm pretty enough to get some uncomfortable attention. When I was in Europe last year, at a train station, I got a bit of it. I was standing alone, and these four guys came up and started blabbering off to me in their language, laughing. "I don't speak that," I said, laughing it off. "We know!" they said, laughing even harder, and then kept talking to me in their language. One of my friends appeared out of nowhere, asking "Is there a problem here?" The guys backed off and left pretty quick. It was the first time I really had a guy stand up for me, and it was a surprising feeling. The relief was so strong, my entire body just kind of relaxed instantly... and I hadn't even known I was nervous! It was normal. I wasn't sad, but the emotion/relief was strong enough that I seriously almost cried. My friend didn't do much, but it hit very deep. Really surprised me, I'll admit. And it gave me a week long crush on him that I never took seriously, since I understood it. No joke.
So, just think about how all of this gets played out in Twilight. Because it's a fantasy and you can create unreal situations, all of these deep chords in women can be hit at will. You can make up cars veering towards Bella, potential rapists... and Edward is unnaturally dangerous. If
that small incident with my friend affected me so strongly, imagine what this story does. Bella is completely helpless when she is alone with Edward. If he wanted to hurt her, there would be absolutely NOTHING that she could do to stop it. Yet she is completely safe (well, in her eyes at least). So you have this romance story, which naturally girls like. But on top of that, you have this heightened situation of vulnerability (intimacy) because of the danger inherent in Edward, AND a heightened sense of safety, also because of the danger inherent in Edward. Plus... girls have a sense of adventure too, guys aren't the only ones who get excited by danger. This is why women love Edward; it isn't that he is rich or good looking (which doesn't hurt). And it isn't just that he is nice (chivalry minus danger) or a 'bad boy' (danger minus chivalry). It is because he is dangerous, and good. And that's what women want.
Other than that, The best definition of love I've heard was this; "Love is a commitment of the will to the true good of the other person" (Budziszewski, www.boundless.org) It's not a feeling. Actually, it goes against feelings. A mother is most loving when her feelings tell her she hates the baby crying in the other room in the middle of the night, but she gets up and changes his diaper anyway because she is commited to doing what is best for him... that is love. Going against feelings if needed! And while Edward and Bella have the lovey-dovey feelings (obviously important), they also have the love that goes against feelings, if it is what is best for the other (New Moon is an obvious example). That's why even when Edward screws up so badly (leaving, or being so overbearing and controlling that I was fuming...) he still has his commitment to her well-being, at any cost to himself. Because that is his motive, it is easy to forgive him. And it's attractive! Heart-meltingly so.
Source: Associated Content Site
Posted: Renee Athome
Date: February 7, 2009